Kicked out Canton S
on Thursday, June 29th, 2023 5:25 | by Björn Brembs
Since the Canton S strain I used wasn’t a perfect genetic background strain anyway and didn’t fly properly, I kicked it out and replaced it with the wild type Berlin data I had collected just prior to the rut and rsh mutants. Now I can collect data for two projects in one go: I check the rut/rsh learning mutants if they still behave the way they should and with the wtb control strain and continue collecting data to evaluate their optomotor responses after training. So now the learning scores for the three strains look like this:
It still doesn’t look like rut is better than wtb, so I’m still skeptical that the strain is really what it should be. The rsh data also don’t look very promising, but I still need to get more flies with a negative preference before the training.
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Suspicion and progress!
on Monday, June 26th, 2023 2:03 | by Björn Brembs
Suspicion: rut may not be rut
Carsten Duch is identifying the muscles involved in operant self-learning:
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It’s a start
on Friday, June 16th, 2023 4:42 | by Björn Brembs
The first few rutabaga and radish mutants have been measured and so far it looks good: standard duration yaw torque learning – the situation all three groups should learn.
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Bachelor Blog / #2 problems, problems
on Monday, June 5th, 2023 12:59 | by Ellie
Hello everyone!
Things are not going well…
Over the last week I have encountered numerous problems in carrying out the planned experiment, and the biggest of these is definitely the generation of offspring. Since it has been shown that long-term memory decays quickly in the first 24 hours after operant self-learning on the flight simulator (and with that possible epigenetic marker I suppose), I decided to mate the flies immediately after training and separate them again after 16-20 hours. However, I did not get any offspring by doing this. I tried mating virgin males/virgin females and also adult males/virgin females for 16-20 h, but no eggs could be found in the vials. I have not yet found out what prevents the flies from mating and am now trying again with older (3-4 days old) adult male flies.
Another problem is the training protocol for memory consolidation by S Xia, L Liu, C Feng et al. 1997. Although I have practiced gluing and inserting flies into the flight simulator, I don’t think I can train enough flies in one day. To maintain sufficient larval density after mating, I need at least 5 females and 2-3 males, and I would need to train them twice, giving a total of 16-18 training rounds per day (and that doesn’t include failed attempts…). Alternatively, I can use the standard protocol and see if the training is enough to reveal epigenetic inheritance of acquired habits, if any.
For now, I will continue to try to produce offspring and practice gluing and training the flies. I have started to do further research on inheritance mechanisms to see if it might also be possible to work with only the F0 generation and detect epigenetic markers (methylation of genes, e.g. foxP, siRNAs) in the trained flies and compare them with untrained flies. Here (1, 2) you can find a few interesting articles on this topic.
However there is also some good news to report: my ContonS line will be ready soon, so I don’t have to work with the wtb virgin flies anymore, which decease very quickly. I have also made some progress on the statistical background after talking to a friend of mine although I still need to do some research on how to set my effect size so I can finally calculate the sample size I need for the experiment.
Bachelor Blog / #1 outline
on Monday, May 22nd, 2023 8:45 | by Ellie
Hello everyone!
Here is a brief overview of the topics I will be dealing with over the next few months:
This is the experiment by MD Ziv Williams I am trying to imitate ->
If you are further interested in transgenerational inheritance of behavioral traits and non synaptic memory storage check out these interesting links ->
- Can brain activity transmit transgenerationally? – Miska and Rechavi, 2021
- Is plasticity of synapses the mechanism of long-term memory storage? – Abraham, Jones and Glanzman, 2019
This week, for now, I will continue practicing to glue the flies and make a realistic estimate of the number of flies I need to get a significant result. Hopefully I can start trying out my experimental setup by the start of next week :)
Machine works, flies are not learning
on Monday, May 22nd, 2023 11:48 | by Björn Brembs
The old software is installed with the new hardware and I’ll be testing the new software in parallel to experiments with the old software. Technically, everything seems to be working now, but the first six flies I tested did not show learning after training:
However, avoidance looks fairly ok, only the last training period gives away that something still isn’t quite the way it should be:
So I’ll go ahead and train a new batch of flies this week. I’ll focus on training/avoidance and make sure it is perfect, before I shorten the training.
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Kibra knockout, adult
on Monday, December 19th, 2022 11:15 | by Andreas Ehweiner
Knockout of Kibra in adult flies.
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Kibra knockout, adult
on Monday, November 28th, 2022 11:47 | by Andreas Ehweiner
Knockout of Kibra in adult flies.
Results from day1 (not included)
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baz adult knockout, half time
on Monday, October 17th, 2022 1:08 | by Andreas Ehweiner
Knockout of baz in all neurons of adult flies. Periods 60 sec.
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